There have been several cases in the last year, Iraena Asher, another one since (can't recall but it was on the xtra website) and now this one, this weekend:

http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,11964-4297167,00.html

There is a chance that last night there was nothing to worry about, however the police should have investigated it anyway. Say someone's body is found in the next week or so, that will be a direct result of this incident not being handled properly.

What I am keen to know is, firstly: why is it that the minor incidences are dealt with yet the majors aren't?
secondly: what is the minister of police going to do about the policing problems?

Now, I have always received excellent service from the police. They are prompt, they look after you and they genuinely care.

The police are not to be blamed for these situations, the police minister is and someone at the 111 centre is also to be held accountable. It should have been dealt with after the Iraena Asher incident. If people call 111 then it is important something is done.

Last night, a star mart attendant who was in hospital has had an eftpos machine thrown at him. These things shouldn't be happening either.

It is in politics because I want to discuss people's safety and wellbeing. What the government is doing at present simply isn't good enough. I want answers and I want changes. I would like someone's head to roll. People's lives are important goddamit and when I hear abut things like this I feel ashamed. I feel ashamed that we live in a society where we have insufficient policing resources and ashamed that people seek help and aren't taken seriously and finally, that heads don't roll. If you muck up you pay the price.

not always. i know this one girl who called paramedics while faking a drug overdose, and then clogged up the hospital waiting room, but wasnt seen because she was silly enough to take drugs.

In fact, i think George hawkins actually threw it himself, didnt he? and he sells p.

The police cant find the resources partly because they're out trying to stop silly teenagers take drugs and hurt themselves. You cant sit there breaking the laws and then complain about the police not acting properly. its called double standards.

there should be more police and more money invested. That would possibly prevent things like this happening.

There needs to be more money in healthcare as well.

Wow, i love how you addressed what i said so accutely.

tut tut, breaking the law is naughty. At least I only speed and download mp3's.

they affect other people.

acrowley was being sarcastic.

Like its been said, its funny how you ran around preaching about how you never break any laws, yet here you are taking drugs and clogging up our stretched medical system. i have zero sympathy for you.

:stupid:

This was on the NZ Herald website. Our 111 system is an absolute joke. The government had better have some bloody good answers for us. I don't want to hear a lack of funds, they are spending copius amounts on advertising campaigns. They need to invest more money in the 111 service otherwise what the fuck is the point of having it in the first fucking place.

have you ever dialled 111? i have. we were being chased by a car full of dudes throwing bottles at us. The call centre sent 2 patrol cars to us and the other car screamed off. IT was excellent. i think to expect the system to work 100% of the time is a bit stupid, really.

A 111 worker was praised yesterday for his quick thinking and initiative when a section of train track was buckled. The train was stopped in time. There you go a feel good story to balance the books - perhaps we should praise the government too? After all, whenever something goes wrong they get blamed.

Based on the replies by Toby and Acrowley I think, by Liz's standards, we now have incontrovertible proof that the 111 system worked brilliantly.

Afterall, if Liz's close calls with tarot cards (eg: the justice tarot card came up and I almost got called by a debt collector!) qualifies as proof by her standards then anything should stack up.

PS: I didn't call 111, and they didn't turn up. Do you think that's because I didn't pick the tarot "justice" card? ;)

Ironic that she who doesn't want to hear never listens anyway.

(I know we're not supposed to double post (but hey, I'm a rebel in my own lunchtime).. but this I couldn't resist).

*** This is my opinion, and mine alone and I reserve the right to disagree with myself, contradict myself and not be flamed for it. No - wait - that's not me, that's Liz! I disagree! I think. No - that can't be right - I think therefore I can't be Liz! That's right!

Ive only ever had to call 111 once and they were calm, prompt and very helpful

Bravo to them :clap:

The point is that they are never there when you need them, they go to minor things, rather than the bigger things, seems pretty ridiculous to me.

And yes, the 111 service should be effective 100% of the time because people's lives are in danger. I suppose you want people to die then huh?

DO YOU EVER READ ANYTHING POSTED???? READ THE ABOVE POSTS BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT POST. FFS - IN MY OPINION YOU READ NOTHING.

lets keep it on track here - please argue against the point, not the individual.

Basically the 111 service is an essential service and people's lives depend on it. That is why I am so concerned about them not responding to certain calls.

They should treat all calls as very serious.

The point is 3 different people told you good stories about the 111 service. How does this make them never there when needed. And I think a potential train crash is one of those 'bigger things'.

FFS :shrugs:

oh and

I aknowlwedged those positive comments, sure I have only ever had good service from the police, ambulances etc but the point is that there are people out there who are not.

They are understaffed and something needs to be done fast.

Everyone knows these things, yet the police minister never seems to be listening to the voices of the public and he should be doing so unless he wants more people dead, houses burned down etc. this is the only way to solve the issue.

If it was up to me, which it isn't. I would increase the income threshold for receiving income support and only give it to those in dire need of it. This would free up the funding for better emergency system resources.

where??? you didn't acknowledge anything. don't bother editing one of your posts as I've saved the thread.

I aknowledged it intellectually but not verbally.

You certainly never acknowledged it by typing it in. Unfortunately as you are the only clairvoyant, I don't think anyone else realised you had done so.

Where did anyone say they wanted people to die. in your hast to criticise labour you have ignored the fact that everything the police do well goes unnoticed. If you read a web page dedicated to capitalism, you will not understand the negative aspects. If you read only what labour does wrong, or only what national has to say, you will eternally hate labour. Just like when you said you would automatically consider john banks because he is 'right wing,' i imagine you automatically dismiss labour because they are not.

the police minister does not administer overall funding to the police, and you are misguided in your attempts to place the blame. Do you think there were no problems under national? unsolved cases? missed calls? no, you know there were problems. this is about your intolerant political views. i acknowledge a problem in law enforcement, but i would prefer to know the real problem and solution, and not your highly slanted rants. please make an effort in future, liz.

Toby, for me, the purpose of debate is to convince the opposition of my angle. I take an angle that is right wing. If this were a news report then yes, it would be unbiased (which reminds me that in the next week I have to write some sports news for Craccum).

I have been on the stats website, the national website and the act website, all websites say that crime has gone up in certain areas. Yes it has gone down in certain areas as well but the point is that some areas have gone up.

People are still going to commit crimes if there is a lenient approach taken towards it.

When people who commit crimes know that they will get out after serving only half their sentence that says that ncreases the chances that they will commit a crime.

Prison inmates escaping has also been an issue over the last year. This tells me that security is not tight enough. And why isn't security tight enough? Because the government is wasting its money on either advertising campaigns or welfare. It should be going into other areas.

errrrr. i just wouldnt know where to begin. prison inmates have, i believe, escaped prior to the labour goverment taking power. NAtional too is spending money on advertising, as does every party, and national would also spend money on advertising if it where in power.

The idea that money on welfare is a 'waste' is indicative of your complete failure to grasp societies most basic foundations. people resort to insults because your fat head is too thick to get through. Smoke some more.