Title: Organ Donation
Description: Slice and dice.
weirdo - January 24, 2006 05:39 AM (GMT)
I was just thinking how there are a lot of people on hospital waiting lists but not all of it is due to not enough taxes being put into health. Often there is a huge delay in the amount of organs like lungs needed for transplants.
I have heard many varied responses from friends, so I ask what are your thoughts on donating your organs after you die? Is it disgusting to have your dead body chopped up or is it a way to help people once you don't need your organs anymore?
Personally I will be donating my organs, I want to help people.
Tony Montana - January 24, 2006 05:44 AM (GMT)
I think that I'd like to be buried with my body intact, thanks.
If a family member or close friend needed an organ, that'd be a different story, but the thought being cut up for a complete stranger just doesn't sit right.
El Matador - January 24, 2006 05:44 AM (GMT)
I don't need my organs after I die. I don't care what they do with them. My skin is mine though. Someone may feel the urge to reanimate me.
the oob - January 24, 2006 05:48 AM (GMT)
Presumably there will be full scale organ cloning by the time I die anyway, so I haven't bothered to think about it.
Tony Montana - January 24, 2006 05:55 AM (GMT)
I plan to find the holy grail and live forever so this whole discussion is redundant.
mrt - January 24, 2006 06:03 AM (GMT)
My drivers licence has me as a organ donar, I feel that if I do die early and my organs are still useful then why not save another life in the process. As the oob knows, it's not entirely selfless: It'll give your parents something to be proud of you for/gloat about you ...
But in the long run, I agree with oob, cloning and artifical devices will become more and more important and common place.
the oob - January 24, 2006 06:06 AM (GMT)
The government should offer $1,000 to anyone willing to tick the 'take my organs when I die' box. Generosity is no match for the power of greed.
Tony Montana - January 24, 2006 06:10 AM (GMT)
OK... I'd probably do it for $1000. Every man has his price.
the oob - January 24, 2006 06:12 AM (GMT)
And so would I... that is, assuming I don't have myself cryogenically frozen.
Tony Montana - January 24, 2006 06:13 AM (GMT)
You were right about the briefcase thing btw :bowdown:
Miss_Illusioned - January 24, 2006 07:13 AM (GMT)
I'm an organ donor. But apparently they can only take your organs if you die in the operating room, rather than just die. And there is a major problem because as technology advances they are able to save more people in the OR.
However, I am all for donating organs. But I respect people's decision not to.
Hauser - January 24, 2006 07:30 AM (GMT)
I think I'm down as a donor on the old license too. I'm not too worried about someone bogarting my organs, for as El Matador said, after we die we don't really need them.
Adolf Chiang - January 24, 2006 07:33 AM (GMT)
Being buried with a full set of organs is an honor in my culture. As for organ harvesting, we should take those from executed criminals (they die with no honor and should suffer the consequences).
| QUOTE |
| Presumably there will be full scale organ cloning by the time I die anyway, so I haven't bothered to think about it. |
Someone speaks my mind...
Happy Ahmed - January 24, 2006 07:34 AM (GMT)
I'm going to be stuffed with my arms up in the air like one of those angry bears. I am going to be displayed in the entranceway of my house.
They can do what they like with my organs.
Synopsis - January 24, 2006 07:45 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (the oob @ Jan 24 2006, 06:12 PM) |
| And so would I... that is, assuming I don't have myself cryogenically frozen. |
Organ donation makes more sense in that case. That way all they need to perserve is the brain which will take up less resources than the whole body.
In the future you just have to wait for them to invent cyborgs so you can get a superior robot body when they thaw your brain out.
the oob - January 24, 2006 07:48 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Synopsis @ Jan 24 2006, 08:45 PM) |
| Organ donation makes more sense in that case. That way all they need to perserve is the brain which will take up less resources than the whole body. |
Yeah but I wouldn't to be unfrozen and hit with a huge bill for all the organ regrowing. Why take a chance?
mrt - January 24, 2006 07:49 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Adolf Chiang @ Jan 24 2006, 08:33 PM) |
| As for organ harvesting, we should take those from executed criminals (they die with no honor and should suffer the consequences). |
Wouldn't someone from your culture have issues with being gifted a "heart of a criminal"? People on the waiting list would be *dead* silly to be picky, but still, given the choice, as a recipient wouldn't you rather have a non-criminals body part?
Synopsis - January 24, 2006 07:51 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (the oob @ Jan 24 2006, 07:48 PM) |
| Yeah but I wouldn't to be unfrozen and hit with a huge bill for all the organ regrowing. Why take a chance? |
Robots don't have frail organs.
Besides if you can afford cryogenic suspension you can afford all of that crap anyway.
Dr_Steve - January 24, 2006 07:52 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Adolf Chiang @ Jan 24 2006, 07:33 PM) |
Being buried with a full set of organs is an honor in my culture. As for organ harvesting, we should take those from executed criminals (they die with no honor and should suffer the consequences).
Someone speaks my mind... |
When someone in the world donates an organ, it makes John Lennon smile.
weirdo - January 24, 2006 09:28 AM (GMT)
My God, I'm blind.
Isn't it somewhat ironic how people are happy to take other peoples organs if they needed a transplant yet refuse to give their own? That just seems weird to me.
Tony Montana - January 24, 2006 09:31 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (weirdo @ Jan 24 2006, 09:28 PM) |
My God, I'm blind.
Isn't it somewhat ironic how people are happy to take other peoples organs if they needed a transplant yet refuse to give their own? That just seems weird to me. |
Not really. Humans are inherantly selfish. Ask Tom Hobbes.
the oob - January 24, 2006 09:39 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Synopsis @ Jan 24 2006, 08:51 PM) |
Robots don't have frail organs.
Besides if you can afford cryogenic suspension you can afford all of that crap anyway. |
Still risky though... robot bodies might not be available yet, and a nasty case of hyperinflation or some shit while I was frozen may make me a pauper when I awaken.
You know, half the reason I want to be frozen is so I can gloat about 'beating the pharoahs' if I get awakened. I mean hey, even if there's only a 1/100 chance of it working, it's still worth a shot. Better than the lottery.
Synopsis - January 24, 2006 10:37 AM (GMT)
and you really think cryogenic suspension will be as easy as in sci fi?
It's more likely that you will suffer quite a bit of damage to your body and will need transplants and so forth anyway, the longer frozen the worse it would be.
the oob - January 24, 2006 10:42 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Synopsis @ Jan 24 2006, 11:37 PM) |
and you really think cryogenic suspension will be as easy as in sci fi? It's more likely that you will suffer quite a bit of damage to your body and will need transplants and so forth anyway, the longer frozen the worse it would be. |
Yeah, but I don't know in advance whether it will be easier for them to repair my existing parts or grow new ones from scratch, so best to play it safe and keep my whole body, especially since I can't be sure they'll even be able to do the latter option.
If the latter option is cheaper though, they can always hack off my frozen limbs and grow new ones.
And then I can say
JPAR - January 24, 2006 11:37 PM (GMT)
There's a simple solution to all of this. People who aren't donors dont get transplants (unless they're a child of course). Wanna be selfish? Fine. But you shouldn't benifit from others then.
maniacnymph - January 25, 2006 12:59 AM (GMT)
^^ Fark, amen to that!
I dont have a drivers liscense, being a bum, but when I do itl have the little Organ Donor thingy on it. Im really not the cold hard bitch I make myself out to be.
Fez - January 25, 2006 01:29 AM (GMT)
I have organ donor on my license and at the time of getting my license I was all of 16; not really knowing what I was doing, Dad said it was a noble thing to do to tick it so I did. Now that Im older Im glad I did, but it makes you wonder, is 16 old enough to make a decision like that?
Synopsis - January 25, 2006 01:55 AM (GMT)
I don't see why not. It's not like it's an earth shattering decision, and I'm sure the doctors make sure you're dead before they cut you up.
"I had a near death experience. When I woke up I discovered the doctors had harvested my kidneys"
samf - January 25, 2006 02:56 AM (GMT)
I'm down as a donor. No reason to bogart useful equipment if there's no chance of being revived.
Fez - January 25, 2006 04:11 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Synopsis @ Jan 25 2006, 01:55 PM) |
"I had a near death experience. When I woke up I discovered the doctors had harvested my kidneys" |
believe it or not that is what is on a lot of peoples minds when making this decision. There have been some news stories about some pretty shitty doctors giving up on patients that could have lived.
Miss_Illusioned - January 25, 2006 04:30 AM (GMT)
Yes but then there are also doctors who willtake your organs regardless of what you ticked. I think 15 is an ok age to make that decision. It's not like they can't change their mind as they get older.
sdr - January 25, 2006 09:59 AM (GMT)
I was afraid of getting cut to peices when I was 17 getting my learners licence. Since then I pretty much forgot about until I had to get my licence replaced so I didn't change to the donor option until a couple of months ago. Now I kind of agree with the "Don't want to donate organs, don't get them when you need them" idea.