Ive always been fascinated by pyscopaths I dont know what it is, maybe its their complete lack of empathy or respect for human life, maybe its their methods of toture but they always intrigued me.

Recently I saw a documentary about them and it went on to describe some of the more famous ones including footage of some of their trials once they had been caught.

This was by far the most chilling part of the documentary for me.

One of those giving a descriptiong of his process of murder was jeffery dahmer. This guy would drill a hole in his victims head and pour small amounts of hydochloric acid into it to keep his victims in a "zombie-like" state so that they could not run away.


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Another they analysed was Dennis Rader.

Have a read up on wikipedias serial killer list and post those that intrigue you the most.

Sorry if this a little gory, but like I said this kind of stuff fascinates me as well as grossing me out. Its the reason Im doing an abnormal pysch paper next semester

I've read the Wikipedia Serial Killers List multiple times. It made me lose interest.

Taken from the same Wiki page talking about the first victims of Dennis Rader:

Its completely unrelated to this thread... but doesnt anyone else think its a little dodgy calling everyone in your family Joseph?

Very religious family?

Yeah more than likely. But what were the other three (not murdered) kids called? Joe, Joey and Josey?

Have you seen the movie Dahmer? It's based on his life, but it's not done in a cheesey, voyeuristic way. It's very understated, and all the more dark for it. It showed at the Incredible Film Fest a couple of years ago. :ph43r:

It's a story about being at its most isolated, a guy who is completely alienated from his society, so that he commits the horrific acts.

Recommended viewing, I reckon.

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Oh my god the second one fez mentioned, Dennis Rader, was seriously fucked!

no see you guys are sposed to read up on that list and then post the one that intrigued you the most.

there are other far more fucked up ones than the ones I posted

Here is another more famous one, Ed Gein was the inspiration for films such as Pyscho and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, he is pretty much the original creepy serial killer that a lot of hollywood films have been made in the mold of.

No but Id kind of like to now, despite how much I hate stomach-quesiness enducing movies.

^^ He wasn't a good cunt.

Crime Library for the win.

Serial murders and so on intrigue us all, it seems.

Ed Gein was my first choice of most revolting, but these two are just unbelievable.

For sheer numbers, it's Pedro Alonso Lopez with 300+ victims...

And for sheer moustache-twirling evil, noone beats HH Holmes.

"Sporting a stylish walrus mustache and a fashionable fedora, Dr. H. H. Holmes built a castle of horrors in upscale Englewood, Illinois, just south of Chicago. His charm was well-known, but his sterling local reputation soon succumbed to international infamy once his horrific deeds were uncovered.

... Born in Gilmantown, New Hampshire on May 16, 1860, Herman Webster Mudgett had found surgery fascinating for as long as he could remember. While enrolled at the University of Michigan Medical School in Ann Arbor, he stole bodies from the school laboratory. Disfiguring the corpses and claiming that the unlucky souls had been accidentally killed, Mudgett collected insurance money from policies that he, personally, took out on each and every one.

Eventually, he sent Clara back to New Hampshire and on a summer day in 1886, visited Dr. E.S. Holton's drugstore. Located at the corner of Wallace and Sixty-Third in Englewood, Illinois, Holton was dying of cancer while his worried wife minded the store. Mudgett introduced himself as Dr. Henry Howard Holmes and politely inquired if she needed an assistant. Without a second thought, the distraught woman hired him on the spot.

By the end of that summer, Dr. Holton passed away, but business prospered as the local ladies frequented the drugstore hoping to catch sight of the handsome new druggist. The grieving widow left Holmes with more and more responsibility, and when he offered to buy the drugstore, she accepted on one condition-that she could continue to live upstairs. Holmes agreed, but when he failed to pay her, Mrs. Holton sought legal action.

Then she disappeared.

When asked about the Widow Holton, Holmes nonchalantly explained that living alone above the store depressed her so she moved to California. No one thought it odd when Holmes quickly moved in.

Much to the disappointment of the local women, Holmes soon married Myrta Z. Belknap-a woman he met on a business trip to Minneapolis. Now a bigamist, he brought his bride back to Englewood where she worked in the store. Myrta had no idea that her marriage wasn't legal, but definitely didn't approve of her husband's roaming eye. Eventually, she left him, but not before she found herself pregnant. Myrta moved in with her parents, delivered a baby girl, and Holmes supported them from a distance.

With Myrta out of the way, Holmes' attention turned elsewhere. He purchased a lot across the street from the drugstore. There he built his dream castle-or what would later be known as his castle of horrors. Designed entirely by Holmes, he carefully supervised the construction making sure no workman stayed on the job for more than a week. Claiming their work was second rate, he fired them, refusing to pay for their services and, at the same time, ensuring that no one knew the exact layout of the building. Completed in May 1890, the building stood three stories high. Exclusive shops occupied the first floor, but the upper floors and basement held secrets - deadly ones.

Mazes of mystery entwined the second and third floors of Holmes' castle. There were secret hallways and closets connecting the seventy-one bedrooms. Soundproof, and with doors that could only be locked from the outside, these 'guest quarters', were fitted with gas pipes attached to a control panel in Holmes' bedroom. He turned them on and off at will. Holmes' office, complete with an oversized stove, was also on the third floor adjacent to his walk-in vault. There were trap doors, sliding panels, stairs that led nowhere, and doors that opened to nothing but solid brick walls. Large greased chutes led straight to the basement where Holmes kept an acid tank, a dissecting table…and a crematorium.

... Taking a Toronto Police Officer with him, [Detective] Geyer went to the house in question knowing full well what awaited him. The two men headed straight for the cellar. Brandishing a shovel, Geyer dug only two feet when a human arm bone surfaced. The bodies of Nellie and Alice Petizel were unearthed and now H.H. Holmes was not just guilty of an insurance scam — he was a killer.

News of the grisly find spread throughout Canada and the United States. Suddenly, Holmes became an international figure of evil, but this was only the beginning.

Back in Englewood, detectives paid a visit to the castle. They were hardly prepared for what they found. Inside the large stove still in Holmes' office, they discovered a human rib and a hank of long hair-most likely a woman's. In the basement, they located a wooden tank hidden behind one wall. Lighting a match to help them see, they unwittingly ignited an explosion. The tank, as it turned out, was filled with chemicals. As soon as the air cleared, the detectives returned to the house where they found the skeletal remains of a young child - probably Pearl Conner. Now, they were convinced that the castle of horrors, and the man who built it, held unimaginable secrets.

Name after name of missing persons once associated with Holmes appeared. Kate Gorkey, a middle-aged widow who ran a restaurant inside the castle, her sister Liz, and daughter, Anna all vanished without a trace. Wilfred Cole of Baltimore met with Holmes and was never seen again. Harry Walker who worked as Holmes' secretary disappeared in 1893. The list went on and on and so did the evidence when a mound of human bones hidden among soup bones was found in the basement...

On October 28, 1895, Holmes went on trial for the murder of Benjamin Pitezel. Labeled as 'the trial of the century', crowds clamored to the Philadelphia courthouse hoping to get a glimpse of the fiendish doctor. The daily newspapers painstakingly covered the entire trial delivering every sordid detail to a demanding public. In the end, Holmes was found guilty of first-degree murder. Eventually, he admitted killing twenty-seven men, women and children, including Benjamin Pitezel and his three children... Exactly how many people Holmes murdered remains a mystery, but some estimates number more than 200."

After reading about their criminal exploits, I want to be their executioner.

I too have an interest in serial killers and horrible murders and the like. Like the holocaust. I have watched so many movies to do with that.

As for serial Killers John Wayne Gacy is one of the interesting one. Heck he gave me another good reason not to like clowns!!!

Another one would be Gerard John Schaefer. Another reason to distrust policemen and never pull over for them in secluded areas!!

Try this quiz then...

Serial Killer Quiz

I'm not a violent man myself, but crime and the process of solving them have always intrigued me. I also have a strong interest in the Holocaust (no, not in that sick sort of Nazist way) since I watched 'Auschwitz'.

6/10 for me on the quiz.

Damn! I scored the same as you.

6/10.

6/10

man is that like the only score you can get?

They say, with that score, you're not fit to work in law enforcement. Oh well, prisons do need plenty of guards. Since we can all fire a gun and beat a man to a bloody pulp with a baton, I think we're over qualified.

well personally I've never tried to find out if I can beat a man to a bloody pulp with a baton. But whatver floats your boat dude.

Most awesomest prison gaurd of all time: Byron Hadley from the Shawshank Redemption. Runner up, Sergent Bulman from the power of one.

I like beating people with sticks.

Bulman was a hardcore racist, unlike Mr. Hadley, who would beat up anyone (sometimes to death) for misbehavior within his visual range.

Scoring 8/10 I apparently know my Java beans from my Fava Beans, my slashers from my slash dotters.

In the first page of this thread, various members of our forum have talked about the serials killers that they find as most intriguing or disgusting. After my own extensive browsing of Wikipedia's Serial Killers According to Nationality, here are what I consider as the worse of the worst:

Medieval Madness:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_de_Rais (This man was responsible for the torture and killing of some 300 children. He even masturbated to their still living, disembowelled bodies.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Stumpp ('Werewolf', cannibal, devil worshipper and incest practitioner)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erzsébet_Báthory (She's one vampirical bitch!)

Krazy Krauts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Grossmann (Murdered numerous women and sold their flesh as meat.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_K%C3%BCrten (Some bloke who looks like Hitler and had a very substantial crime spree of violence. Inspired one horror movie.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim_Kroll (Dimwit cannibal with 13 known victims.)

[u]The Butcher of Hanover:[u]


(He even looks like Hitler!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Haarmann (A self-proclaimed vampire who attacked and killed boys)

Belgian Bastard:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dutroux (His crimes caused 1/3 of all Belgians named Dutroux to get a name change!)

Horrible Hungarians:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Béla_Kiss (Targetted women through marriage schemes, pickled their corpses and eluded justice in the chaos of WWI.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvestre_Matuschka (His classification is an anomaly, given the fact that he committed mass murders by derailing trains but for sexual pleasure, like that of a serial killer.)

The Insane Irishman and His Gang:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Murphy

Nerdy Nipponese

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsutomu_Miyazaki (Appearances can be deceiving.)

Perhaps the Worst Pakistani EVER:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javed_Iqbal (Raped and murdered over 100 boys.)

Soviet Silence:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Chikatilo (The famous "Russian Hannibal Lecter" who clearly lived up to his nickname.)

The Terminator from Ukraine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoly_Onoprienko (Shot over 50 people during the years of 1989-1996. Was hunted by the army.)

American Assholes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_M._Heidnik (Although he had only kept women as sex slaves, he killed one of them and forced the rest of his victims to cannibalize her remains as sustenance.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earle_Nelson (Used a Bible to club his victims before killing them and raping the corpses.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ramirez (Satanist who terrorized L.A. after dark.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Ng and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Lake (Two ex-Marines survivalists who collected females sex slaves for plans to repopulate the Earth after thermonuclear war.)


(There are plenty more on that list, but these are the worst I've read so far.)

Wow! No one cares about serial killers anymore...

Won't SOMEBODY think of the serial killers?!

LMAO! Mrs. Lovejoy is a classic!