http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle...ticle331605.ece

Thats not a very nice way of naming your thread. C-130 vs. Apartment Building?

Well on the radio they say things like 'car vs truck on the northern motorway' etc.

Yes but thats two things that are likely to collide, something we expect everyday. A plane vs an apartment building??

You know, I think the 'vs' thing should be used whenever possible.

"You hear? There was a fist vs face outside Shadz last night".

A lot of the equipment hasn't been replaced since the revolution for fuck sakes.

Oooo, more reason to hate the US. Americans must thrive on hate.

You mustn't read fark.

I'm not usually touchy about these sorts of things, i guess the title makes it sound a little like a game! It kind of detracts from the sheer tradgedy of such an event.

Here was the fark headline:

"Iranian military plane carrying 94 crashes. No word on how Iranians fit 94 crashes into plane".

By the way, if anyone here should be offended, it's me, since my mother and many of my friends are from Iran. But I'm not, because I don't have a rod up my ass.

I have a rod up my ass and i'm still not offended.

Lets not even go there. I don't have a rod up my ass and if you keep insinuating so i may just have to stick a rod af barbwire up yours. Today is not a good day to insinuate such things. I'm in a seek and destroy mood, and it will be slow and painful, mark my words.

You don't scare me Sammikins.

*tickles*

Don't worry Ahmed, i was'nt refferring to you. That was directed at Oob.

I am a valuable ally but a feared enemy.

I'm finding it hard to contain my laughter :frustrated:

They should have made more purchases from the Russian or Chinese, or at least try to manufacture components in secret. The Iranians had been plague by component shortages since the Iran-Iraq War.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/c-130.htm

According to the above article on the Herc's specs:

Maximum Takeoff Weight 155,000 pounds (69,750 kilograms).
Operating Weight: 83,000 Pounds
Maximum Useable Fuel: 60,000 Pounds
Maximum Allowable Cabin Load: 36,000 Pounds
Normal Passenger Seats Available: Up to 92 troops or 64 paratroops or 74 litter patients.

(2 from the 94 are the pilots and the rest were the passengers.)

There's great irony in having those two sentences together.

'Rod up my ass' is an expression, like 'monkey on my back'. So rest assured that I am only insinuating that you have a rod up your ass figuratively.

It's been an angry few weeks on this forum...

And I thought the holidays were meant to be happier times...

I know full well that it is an expression, a figurative one at best. I do not like it when it is insinuated that i am being up-tight or sensitive, which in my mind said statement implies.

But i'm not angry, just on the precipice...........one push........one push.

One cannot be happy for a whole month, shit happens where one day is the same happy frivolity, the other a shit storm in a teacup. It's called a bad day Adolph, and if you knew women, you'd know it's a good idea to stay away from them when this happens, not that you are the cause of this or an aggravating factor in any way. It's like poking a snake with a stick. All in good time my man, all in good time, you shall learn.

Hitler doesnt know woman, at all.

This might explan a few things: 5 years at an all boys school

I was at one of those schools for seven years. Takes a wee while to get used to a co-ed reality.

Yeah (I went to school with hitler). Although its funny how you change, now most of my mates are girls.

Hey, nothing wrong with the school I went to! It helped to make me into a man.

Anyway, women are different to men. You can tell a guy to toughen up and put his emotions aside (doesn't work with metrosexuals), but if you do that to a woman, you're considered insensitive.

Not for me. University was swell.

Dude, you're in engineering. (hes not a cool engineer #ref Ahmed/Voncock/Luke)

I went to co-ed schools (unless you count computer science) and have a sister yet I still know nothing about women.

And what's wrong with that? At least my career won't be about defending bloody murderers and drunk drivers.

I heard that they're difficult to please.

No, it'll be about designing weapons and unsafe cars. :P

Designing weapons would be an absolute dream for me. Pity how I would rather be a civil engineer. As for unsafe cars, blame the Japs!

Now now, lawyers have a purpose in society just as anyone else does. Can you imagine a world without lawyers?

Yes, I can. Bring on the show trials!

Is that meant to be so fuzzy?

So now you go all Stalinist on us... :rolleyes:

Yeah, his nose looks like that of a pig...

Show trials date back to the Middle Ages. Anne Boleyn's trial was a classic example.

This isn't sounding very modern and progressive, Adolf.

I doubled (well, quadrupled when counting by total area) the size of the original image and rehosted it.

Effectiveness and security prevails over false claims of progress. The same methods of interrogation and brainwash date back to the Inquisition and have been subsiquently used by the Soviets, Nazis and on American POW in PLA captivity.


My father once witness the show trial of a murder when he was only 11 years old. Basically, his school believed that it was an educational opportunity. Basically the fucker was some guy who was caught rehanded after committing a murder (he stabbed an old enemy during the day at a market place) and was promptly arrested.

Now in the West that trial would last for weeks, and he'd be appointed a fancy lawyer that would argue that the client was insane or was "clinically depressed". Such bullshit did not happen at the show trial. The local judge basically spoke of the police report on his offending and included the details of the offending. That bastard was remorseful, but nobody in the crowd gave a shit. He should have made a better choice that day.

Afterwards, his sentence was handed to him and it was 'death by firearms'. Two policemen dragged him away while he was still sobbing to a remote hill. My father was a bit of a rebel at the time and decided to play truant, just to witness the execution with the adults. They took him to a hill, tied him to a post. The soldier had a Type 56 (SKS). It took two shots in the chest to kill that bastard. The soldier then unfolded the bayonet to cut away the rope. My father felt no compassion for the criminal. When he recounted the tale to me, I thought it was cool!

Similar trial were carried out for SS men by the Soviets. It was literally tried after breakfast, sentenced by lunchtime and shot after dinner. Some people are unworthy of defense. Justice is the expression of power by one party that has been accepted as righteous.

Women are simple creatures.

You wish. Some things are simple, other things............let me put it this way, one wrong move and it's off with your balls!

Good sex, diamonds, praise and attention and committment and you'll be sweet. Now that is simple.

Men earn money and women go spend it.

As I said.