Title: where babies come from in germany
Hannoir - November 2, 2005 05:39 AM (GMT)
maniacnymph - November 2, 2005 06:00 AM (GMT)
Hannoir, im starting to get a tad worried about you my dear. boobies, babies, stds.....you seem to be starting an abnormally large amount of sexual threads! im beginning to think there is someone who is a bad influence on you *COUGHNOTNAMINGANYNAMESBOYFRIENDCOUGH*
Adolf Chiang - November 2, 2005 06:18 AM (GMT)
OMG! What sort of book is that?! I can't believe that such a civilized people can be so perverted and poison the minds of their children.
Happy Ahmed - November 2, 2005 06:37 AM (GMT)
What the fuck dude?
The daddy puts his stiffy inside the mummy AND THAT IS WHERE BABIES COME FROM.
Please, PLEASE justify how telling children how they are created is poisoning their minds.
Adolf Chiang - November 2, 2005 06:41 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Happy Ahmed @ Nov 2 2005, 06:37 PM) |
| Please, PLEASE justify how telling children how they are created is poisoning their minds. |
It contains nudity and a scene of sex, how the fuck is that suppose to be appropriate for young children? It probably doesn't explain the sperm and the egg in scientific detail so it just becomes a piece of trash that's part children's literature and part pornography. Dammit! You're not suppose to know about things like sex until you're 12 or 13 and it has to be told in an educational and scientific perspective. I wouldn't be suprised that some stupid kid reads that book and tries to do it with his younger sister.
Hannoir - November 2, 2005 06:45 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Adolf Chiang @ Nov 2 2005, 07:41 PM) |
| It contains nudity and a scene of sex, how the fuck is that suppose to be appropriate for young children? It probably doesn't explain the sperm and the egg in scientific detail so it just becomes a piece of trash that's part children's literature and part pornography. Dammit! You're not suppose to know about things like sex until you're 12 or 13 and it has to be told in an educational and scientific perspective. I wouldn't be suprised that some stupid kid reads that book and tries to do it with his younger sister. |
Thats the most obsene and ignorant thing I have ever heard you say.
Adolf Chiang - November 2, 2005 06:48 AM (GMT)
Obscene? There was only one "fuck" in the paragraph. You haven't seen my capabilites with profanity. English may be my second language but profanity was my first.
Steveo - November 2, 2005 06:48 AM (GMT)
I found that quite an interesting read
Happy Ahmed - November 2, 2005 06:49 AM (GMT)
What are you going to tell them? Some bullshit fairytale? I firmly believe in complete openness with children. If this book provoked them to ask questions I would happily fill in the details.
Children have no sexual desires, nor much appreciation of pure science. I read a similar book when I was about 7 and never once tried to have sex with my sister.
You still haven't explained how the truth is going to poison the minds of children. But I guess being a product of a propaganda machine might bias your opinions somewhat.
The truth hurts people more when it is deliberately withheld than when it is delivered without prejudice.
Hannoir - November 2, 2005 06:50 AM (GMT)
obscene as in thats one of the most batshit insane things i have heard in a very long time.
Adolf Chiang - November 2, 2005 06:51 AM (GMT)
Withholding information is clear example of security. Instead of telling small children about penis and pussy, give 'em some fairytale bullshit until they're older and can understand things like that. I rather tell 'em the bullshit than have 'em talking about that shit all day at school (I've seen primary school kids do that).
Happy Ahmed - November 2, 2005 06:55 AM (GMT)
I'm sure you would.
But you haven't answered my question.
How is viewing this information going to adversely affect a child?
You know a lot about guns. Have you ever shot anyone?
Steveo - November 2, 2005 06:58 AM (GMT)
He's shot the roof, many times. His gun saftey is fucking terrible
Adolf Chiang - November 2, 2005 06:59 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Happy Ahmed @ Nov 2 2005, 06:55 PM) |
I'm sure you would. But you haven't answered my question.
How is viewing this information going to adversely affect a child? |
You heard me, children don't understand it, they become curious and end up talking about it all day.
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| You know a lot about guns. Have you ever shot anyone? |
I haven't shot anyone and I have no need to, unless it's a military operation I've a participant of, or that someone out there is in the process of harming me or my family. Those who own firearms must be sane enough and those gun murderers prove that not everyone should be eligiable.
Happy Ahmed - November 2, 2005 07:04 AM (GMT)
You just negated yourself then.
Just because you know how to do something doesn't mean you are going to do it. Welcome to moralism. Even children understand it.
Hannoir - November 2, 2005 07:22 AM (GMT)
In fact, in this case, misunderstanding the facts of life could mess you about.
So lets say I have a 13 yr old daughter, who, under your logic, should not know about this stuff. As with most girls her age, she has started her period.
She is good friends with a guy, whose parents have also used this logic.
The girl and guy are curious as to the difference in their bodies, and try stuff out.
Wham bam shes pregnant.
You have some ridiculous ideas Adolf, but this takes the fucking biscuit.
sdr - November 2, 2005 07:25 AM (GMT)
Off topic, but still important.
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| I haven't shot anyone and I have no need to, unless it's a military operation I've a participant of, or that someone out there is in the process of harming me or my family. |
Do you realize if you said this to the nice firearms officer that checks your background when applying for a firearm licence that this is exactly the sort of comment that will keep you from getting that licence? Do you know why that is?
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| Those who own firearms must be sane enough |
maniacnymph - November 2, 2005 07:32 AM (GMT)
if kids ask questions, they should be answered. telling them not to ask, or that what they are asking is in some way 'bad', is only going to make them ashamed, or rebel and try shit out for themselves.
many people have disorders and skewed body image etc from being made to be ashamed of their body, which can lead to problems later in life and in relationships. dont be a git adolph!
samf - November 2, 2005 07:32 AM (GMT)
Yeah. Best not to discuss the possibility of shooting people at all if you want a firearms licence. And if you'd be willing to get involved in military activity, best just join the army where you won't be ostracised/arrested.
If children know the 'facts of life' early it might actually help them to avoid pregnancy and so on - one less reason for sexual 'experimentation'.
sdr - November 2, 2005 07:36 AM (GMT)
I have actually heard a story where a 12 year old girl gets pregnant from an older boyfriend, and actually thinks she's pregnant from bumping her head after falling off a swing.
I've no idea if it's true, but makes you wonder.
Adolf Chiang - November 2, 2005 07:47 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Hannoir @ Nov 2 2005, 07:22 PM) |
| So lets say I have a 13 yr old daughter, who, under your logic, should not know about this stuff. As with most girls her age, she has started her period. |
13 would be a good age to have that sort of stuff known. That book's illustrations were clearly for someone half that age. And tell her not to join the legions of sluts!
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| You have some ridiculous ideas Adolf, but this takes the fucking biscuit. |
That's purly your opinion, my ideas are of sanity, morality, progress, efficiency and logic.
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| Do you realize if you said this to the nice firearms officer that checks your background when applying for a firearm licence that this is exactly the sort of comment that will keep you from getting that licence? Do you know why that is? |
If you're some P dealin' lowlife or some other sort of criminal, the law means nothing to you. It's a sad fact that some men go insane after gaining access to firearms.
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| If children know the 'facts of life' early it might actually help them to avoid pregnancy and so on - one less reason for sexual 'experimentation'. |
Like I said before, a 5 year old doesn't need to worry or know about that sort of stuff.
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| Yeah. Best not to discuss the possibility of shooting people at all if you want a firearms licence. And if you'd be willing to get involved in military activity, best just join the army where you won't be ostracised/arrested. |
I never talked about shooting people. In the military, you ain't suppose to talk about shooting people like it's some sort of game, unless you want to be suspected of being the next man who goes beserk during combat and shoots his own squad members.
There has been at least one officer in this country who had been court marshalled for deliberately opening fire on his fellow soldiers with the intent to kill or wound.
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| if kids ask questions, they should be answered. telling them not to ask, or that what they are asking is in some way 'bad', is only going to make them ashamed, or rebel and try shit out for themselves. |
Say I have a son (name him Adolf Jr., if you're in a humorous mood), if my kid asks me about where do babies come from, I'll scare and inform him by saying that you will only find out when you're old enough to understand death fully (kids are afraid of death). That'll keep his gob shut about the whole affair until he hits puberty.
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| If children know the 'facts of life' early it might actually help them to avoid pregnancy and so on - one less reason for sexual 'experimentation'. |
If you're going to tell 'em about sex, teach 'em some morality instead of letting the media do that job.
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| I've no idea if it's true, but makes you wonder. |
That's possible if neither of them had been told that sex results in pregnancy, yet they know about sex only as something that happens between two lovers as seen on many movies, which usually do not deal with the female partner becoming pregnant.
El Matador - November 2, 2005 07:49 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Adolf Chiang @ Nov 2 2005, 07:47 PM) |
| I never talked about shooting people. In the military, you ain't suppose to talk about shooting people like it's some sort of game, unless you want to be suspected of being the next man who goes beserk during combat and shoots his own squad members. |
When the FUCK are you going to realise this isn't the military?
Adolf Chiang - November 2, 2005 07:51 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sloanie @ Nov 2 2005, 07:49 PM) |
| When the FUCK are you going to realise this isn't the military? |
Yes! I've realised that. Someone earlier mentioned that the military's all about killing and I had to correct him.
El Matador - November 2, 2005 07:53 AM (GMT)
Well if you were referring to that quote, they didnt.
Happy Ahmed - November 2, 2005 08:02 AM (GMT)
Adolf Chiang - November 2, 2005 08:07 AM (GMT)
Are those the experts that also promote promiscuity in Western society?
Happy Ahmed - November 2, 2005 08:08 AM (GMT)
Yeah because western society has the overpopulation problem.
sdr - November 2, 2005 08:14 AM (GMT)
HAHA AZNs DONT KNOW HOW TO EDUCATE KIDS FUCKING
El Matador - November 2, 2005 08:20 AM (GMT)
Hey guys. Lets not be like Western Society...lets be like eastern cultures...Japan (over-crowded) China (no copyright law respect, crowded), North Kora (war-mongering, famine, crowded), India (child slavery, crowded)...
Eastern Society FTW on morals! Rock on.
Hannoir - November 2, 2005 08:23 AM (GMT)
Hey Adolf, you know something?
Keeping shit from kids is censorship of information.
Thats what communists do.
You fucking hypocrite.
El Matador - November 2, 2005 08:24 AM (GMT)
Fez - November 2, 2005 08:24 AM (GMT)
Adolf if you shit up another thread youre getting the Lair to cool off
Adolf Chiang - November 2, 2005 08:27 AM (GMT)
Oh I get it now, the fuckin' Lair was a trap exlusively for me!
El Matador - November 2, 2005 08:29 AM (GMT)
In your dreams Adolf. You may be a cunt, but you are nowhere near the level of the Hambeast.
Adolf Chiang - November 2, 2005 08:34 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sloanie @ Nov 2 2005, 08:29 PM) |
| In your dreams Adolf. You may be a cunt, but you are nowhere near the level of the Hambeast. |
I have differing views, that doesn't make me a cunt.
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| Keeping shit from kids is censorship of information. |
There are censors in democracies. Some of them censor films for contents (otherwise, child porn and other awful things will be legal), other enforce the definition of the term state secret.
Fez - November 2, 2005 08:39 AM (GMT)
It wasnt for you, please we still think youre ok, you just need to stop shitting up threads or at least post less
El Matador - November 2, 2005 08:40 AM (GMT)
Guys, let's be like China and actively censor the internet...you know by simply putting those words in the same sentence, I've gotten this place banned in China, if it wasn't already.
maniacnymph - November 2, 2005 08:42 AM (GMT)
i remember learning all about that, somewhere.
Adolf Chiang - November 2, 2005 08:45 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sloanie @ Nov 2 2005, 08:40 PM) |
| Guys, let's be like China and actively censor the internet...you know by simply putting those words in the same sentence, I've gotten this place banned in China, if it wasn't already. |
China isn't the only country that censors the internet. I'm not surprised that Microsoft is helping the process.
Hannoir - November 2, 2005 08:47 AM (GMT)
Google helps internet censorship in China.