Don has appointed Wayne Mapp spokesman for the eradication of political correctness.

Hilarity ensues:

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PC is something the leftists invented to further the decay of Western society.

u forget things. 40 years ago it was decided it would be 'politically correct' to stop calling black people 'niggers'

Nows its just accepted as the norm.

Not all political correctness is necessarily bad

There's a difference between blatantly racist and having PC-ness being imposed on you. Someday, you'll have to insult a fag by calling him 'whakahomo'*.

Speaking of the 'N' word, it's fucked up how these idiot rappers blatantly use it and encourage its use amongst Blacks. Self-degradation will not help their furtherance up the social ladder.


*From some bad Maori joke I picked up.

yes you are correct BUT we have to beware of mindlessly following the PC culture..

Whilst not wanting to infringe on the rights of others in our blended society, surely we have rights as well to a little freedom of speech.

I recall it wasnt all that long ago the extremists were advocating crazy shit....

im sorry i really think its going to far when we start renaming things to make it sound glossier than it is.... if youre a ditch digger you are a ditch digger not a dirt relocation specialist!

Bullshit.

Constant use, particularly by niggers, takes the power away from the word and brings it into the public domain.

Soon everyone will be saying it because it won't be offensive anymore.

It's still a very racist term. Do you expect not to get a punch or a stab in the gut if you walk up to some Negro hoodlum and insult him with that term.

You just called him a negro hoodlum.

If I was a group of angry niggers, i'd kick your ass over mine.

Negro isn't really an offensive term. It wasn't until the 1970s that Blacks abandoned it in favor of 'Black' (as opposed to White). Even Martin Luther King used it in his prayers and addresses.

'Isajeep' would be another word similar to 'Isajeep' no matter how new it is.

I was more referring to the hoodlum part.

Let's compare:

You: "Hello negro hoodlum, pleasant day isn't it?"
Niggers: "You best be steppin' back fool, or i'mma cap you"

Me: "Sup niggers"
Niggers: "Sup dawg. Where yo 40 be? Come chill."

Political correctness had its time, but it has become a blight that needs to be removed.

You are not "visually disabled", you're blind.
You are not "Mentally disturbed", you're fucked in the head!
You are not "Vertically challenged", you're a dwarf and it is our right, nay, our duty to get drunk and toss you like a rugby ball!!!

Don't forget, you're not "gravitationally challenged", you're a fat fuck!

hmmmm well physically disenfranchised or cripple?
or like sardonic.... chronologically advantaged or Old fucker/

Now I'm not Mr PC here, I can say some pretty insensitive stuff on a day to day basis. But I don't get what peoples big beef is with PC. What's the big deal? Yes, they're just words. I understand that you find it offensive being told what pseudonyms you have to adopt for various differences between yourself and others. However if there should be no problem with saying "Blind" for PCers, then why should there be a problem with saying "Visually Challenged" for you?

It's really just a signifier of benevolance on your part. Adopting different phrases is a gesture that you care and understand. It's important to push towards this end of the spectrum, because if you don't watch yourself you'll become like what's-his-name, you know, from Campbell Live last night? Saying stuff like "Why should we modify all our buildings for disabled people? They can just deal with it!" People, who for whatever reason are simply too arrogant to accept that PC may be inconvienient but ultimately harmless, are in danger of becoming like this guy. It's far, far worse to be too un-PC than too overly PC.

Just my bit.

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Bin the other two, but might I suggest it's better to use "mentally disturbed" than the alternatives? People who are mentally ill need treatment and (sometimes) protection from doing harm to themselves or others, but it's better not to use terms like "nutter" or "fucked in the head".

To understand why, just think about whether you'd like them to be applied to you or to someone close to you. As I heard someone say the other day, "PC" might seem boring and pointless to you, but for people who are blind, mentally ill or short, it's a different story. The whole point of "PC" language is to take away some of the negative connotations that have gone with those words in the past - not so you as non-blind/mentally ill/short feel good, but so that they who are part of those groups don't suffer discrimination or ridicule as well as coping with their problems.

People often use the most extreme examples of "PC" language as if they are typical. And those with an axe to grind against particular groups (racists, "fag" haters - nice word choice, Adolf!) sometimes use the "PC" snarl word to shout down genuine attempts to make language more inclusive and less needlessly offensive. When you think about it, "political correctness" is sometimes a "politically correct" term itself! It's often used by people (I'm looking at you, National Party) who don't want to say things like "namby-pamby" or "pandering to minorities".

Also, think about how many times you've heard someone say "vertically challenged" or "gravitationally challenged". There are "PC" extremists out there - people who torture language and common sense to avoid any possible offense to anyone - but they're a minority, just like religious or political extremists. The most ridiculous examples of "PC" are easy to spot and hardly ever get used.

I agree with sdr. It doesn't take much effort to use "PC" language. Use your common sense, and adapt the language you use to the situation.

I suppose PC-ness has it's advantages, instead of calling someone gay, you can use:

- Poo pusher
- Dung puncher
- Rectum ranger
- Rearend loader
- Anal amigo
- Bum buddy

The list goes on...

I just dont say things that could be counted as offensive towards people. Easily done

Hah, my favourite: "I'm not homeless, I'm an urban outdoorsman".

LMAO! Mate, you should start a thread on funny PC terms!

That seems to be what this thread has become.

Janitor = hygeine technician.

Thank you for saying in two simple sentances what Sam I and I could only with paragraphs. :clap:

Bravo SDR, Samf, and Steveo!

People who rant on and on about Political Correctness are pathetic shitheads who think that they should control social discourse. Like certain people in the National Party, including Wayne Mapp. He thinks that what he thinks everyone should think. He seriously believes that the Race Relations Commission and any position that defends the position of any minority (immigrants, women who admittedly not technically are a minority but are in terms of representation in most things, maori, homosexuals etc) does not deserve to be government funded.

Does anyone not see the moral problems with the National Party's view? Sure, PC stuff is quite often totally fucking stupid, but come on, do we really need to abolish help for Maori, women, immigrants and homosexuals to get some representation in government decision making??

The government should represent the interests of the everyone and the country, not being only a mouthpiece for women, gays, different minorities, etc.

I doubt we'd be abolishing help for people who need it, which will include people who are Maori, women, immigrants and homosexuals.

Instead of helping them exclusively, we should help all who are in need! Immigrants require some degree of help being settled into society (if we are to accept immigrants, we are to help them settle). As for women (feminazis) and gays, they just create issues to expand their plots. The government has gone insane.

The Grand Gay Conspiracy, eh Chiang? The gays are after you. You, as a sidelined angry right winger, need a scapegoat to blame for you not being able to fully comprehend the changing world around you, a world that does not fit into a nice mathematical graph. If you call all women feminazis, I think that explains the whole phallus/piano imagery thing in the Dream thread. You managed to munge an intelligent response by Mrt.

Mrt, I guess the fear is that it's going to make our government very sterile. Wayne Mapp on the radio suggested there isn't a real need for the Ministry of Women's Affairs (If you look at pay disparity between women and men in similar jobs, it's pretty striking still and even free market capitalist moutpieces like the Economist lament the fact), and his insane tone of NZ-European majoritarianism is pretty frightening if you read his initial speech and his comments on National Radio. Thank God he was a bit more reasoned today in the paper, though, and seemed to have toned himself down a bit.

Does evey communist I come across have to have shit for brains? Morality is cracking and the emergence of this 'gay' counter culture is one aspect of the symptoms. As this trend goes on, you'll see your kids walk down the aisle to marry animals.

What the fuck has the Ministry of Women's Affairs ever done? We have far too many ministries and we ain't got a new bridge for Auckland! All these ministry only benefit the salaries of the ministers.

Godwin's Law applies here, well technically in reverse (That if you call someone a nazi, or in this case a communist, intelligent debate ends).

If you knew your history, you would know that communist movements nearly ALWAYS have puritanical perspectives on morality. Cuba, China, Vietnam, Eastern Europe all persecuting homosexuals etc.

Puritanical? Sure, many dictatorships have common grounds in authoritarianism, but its often the planned economy that ultimately fucks up any communist state. I know for certain that they persecute gays, but communism has effectively destroyed other aspects of morality, as they class that as bourgeoise. this has been signified by how they levelled Christian morality along with the churches in Russia and Eastern Europe or the open denounciations of Confuscian works regarding ethics in China. Communism is anti-human!

Of course, and so are fascism and Christian fundamentalism, which you seem to admire. I am not a Communist by the way, in the same way that you don't support NOD simply because of your picture of Kane.

I don't admire fundies! Their views are backward and they disregard progress made in science. If I'm a dictator, I'd have 'em deported to internal exile or concentration camps. I don't really admire fascism apart from the militant image (same way I would watch a PLA/ROCA parade and think it kicks arse), in their economic view, businesses have to suck up to the State to survive.

Speaking of C&C, I would have probably joined Nod if we're living in that world since much of Asia is under Nod influence (in the alternative C&C world, Nod was behind the KMT and since the Soviets were defeated, Mao did not inherit China. From China to Pakistan it was all red with the Brotherhood, as seen in one EVA briefing). Kane's bald head shines brighter than the Oriental sun!

I used to admire Nod imagery until C&C Renegade when Nod building were dark and red on the inside as well and that's just creepy.


Back on track about communism, one reason why they had to stamp out homosexualism is because it is seen either as capitalist hedonism or a form of sexual deviance that's damaging to their national image. Even communists had to make their country look proud once in a while.

Well, I think people are scared of what they dont understand/cant control/the unknown. And this persecution of "gays" from Hitler here, and others is just due to them not having any contact with the "gays" several of my friends are gay/bi and I see them all the time, not once have any of them hit on me etc etc etc, they are normal people, with (contrary to popular belief) real feelings.

I only see homosexualism as a disorder. I hate the disorder, not the people.

wtf, its not a disorder. Thats just plain ignorance. I thought you were smarter than that.

It can be cured.

ummm.....


Shit I don't even know where to start on this one. Hating faggots is exactly the same as hating asians. You hate the disorder, not the people.

Riiigghhhttt, you keep thinking that Hitler.

Homosexuality is caused by hormones and biological factors, so although I'm sure science could cure it, it shouldn't be.

By your logic, heterosexuality can be cured too.

The Left Rights - Werido, listen to it

Homosexuality is arguably a mental disorder. From here: Disorder- an abnormal physical or mental condition.

...which leaves quite a lot of things open to the label of 'disorder'.

Now here's an interesting question: where do we draw the line in deciding which abnormalities are to be accepted, and which are not? Homosexuality is becoming increasingly accepted in western society, I and others of a liberal mindset have nothing against it, but many other abnormalities such as paedophilia are still considered to be abhorrent.

The line which shouldn't be crossed constantly moves, at the moment the line seems to be 'as long as it's between consenting adults'.