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Title: Favorite German General
Description: A thread for Oob and aye to rant about WW2


shiz law - September 19, 2005 09:27 AM (GMT)
here we can discuss who was our favourite nazi. god aye hate the internet

Adolf Chiang - September 19, 2005 09:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (shiz law @ Sep 19 2005, 09:27 PM)
here we can discuss who was our favourite nazi. god aye hate the internet

The generals and soldiers of the Wehrmacht (few of which were actualy party members) had a sense of distrust and dislike of the SS. Since it's all history, aye'm sure we can discuss it freely. If you hate the internet, why don't you unplug and bugger off? Not a single post here has glorified Nazi actions.

It's interesting to note that Skorzeny was a civil engineer before the war, became a commando, then worked as a civil engineer after the war in Spain and died a multi-millionaire.

Happy Ahmed - September 19, 2005 09:32 AM (GMT)
Nazis killed jews and jews killed jesus.

This way, everyone wins!

Adolf Chiang - September 19, 2005 09:35 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Happy Ahmed @ Sep 19 2005, 09:32 PM)
Nazis killed jews and jews killed jesus.

This way, everyone wins!

The racial slur of Jews being reponsible for Jesus' death is one reason why Jews were so hated in Europe. Remember, Jesus was a Jew by birth too. In the Nazified version of Christianity, they distorted that basic fact and said Jesus was Aryan. Which version do you believe in?

Happy Ahmed - September 19, 2005 09:36 AM (GMT)
If they didn't want to be hated they shouldn't have killed jesus.


And everyone knows jesus was black.

Adolf Chiang - September 19, 2005 09:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Happy Ahmed @ Sep 19 2005, 09:36 PM)
If they didn't want to be hated they shouldn't have killed jesus.

The point is, the Jews weren't responsible for his death! His capture was conducted by the Romans and it would be ironic that anyone given the referandum by a Roman official would end up being left alive since the ordinary folks thought a crucifixion was good entertainment back in those days.

(All you ever talk about is hating Jews and Asians, you're one disturbed man.)

samf - September 19, 2005 11:02 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (the oob @ Sep 19 2005, 05:54 PM)
This forum needs history majors. aye always wanted to major in history, but it's not particularly employable... plus aye'd have to write essays. aye managed to get through my whole degree without writing a single essay :wohoo:


History major here! Unfortunately aye'm not all that clued up on WW2 or German generals...

Adolf Chiang - September 19, 2005 11:05 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (samf @ Sep 19 2005, 11:02 PM)
History major here! Unfortunately aye'm not all that clued up on WW2 or German generals...

aye only started cluing up after the whole WWII craze sweeping the West (aye think it began with Saving Private Ryan).

So what careers do your history major holds? Any alternatives besides teaching and museum guide?

samf - September 19, 2005 11:17 AM (GMT)

Since aye'm majoring in both English and History, aye could train for a bit and teach either of those. Or do an ESOL course and teach English overseas, which wouldn't be too bad at all. Museum guides need museum-specific training aye lack, so aye can't do that. But aye'm doing Masters, so by the time my dissertation is done my French and Mandarin competency should be good enough to get me into the public service, hopefully MFAT. aye'm specialising in Asian and Chinese history specifically.

Adolf Chiang - September 19, 2005 11:22 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (samf @ Sep 19 2005, 11:17 PM)
aye'm specialising in Asian and Chinese history specifically.

The wu chian nian will be very boring by the time you've finished looking at Qin's rule. Chinese history has always been repetitive (with one dynasty collapsing followed by another), it's a shame that they invented paper and printing but failed to usher in the modern world.

the oob - September 19, 2005 11:27 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Adolf Chiang @ Sep 19 2005, 11:22 PM)
QUOTE (samf @ Sep 19 2005, 11:17 PM)
aye'm specialising in Asian and Chinese history specifically.

The wu chian nian will be very boring by the time you've finished looking at Qin's rule. Chinese history has always been repetitive (with one dynasty collapsing followed by another), it's a shame that they invented paper and printing but failed to usher in the modern world.

It's always bothered me that China has such potential but its distrust of the outside world holds it back. They could have kicked some major ass in the middle ages.

Adolf Chiang - September 19, 2005 11:41 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (the oob @ Sep 19 2005, 11:27 PM)
It's always bothered me that China has such potential but its distrust of the outside world holds it back. They could have kicked some major ass in the middle ages.

That's because nationalism is a foreign concept to them. One Chinese man struggles and plots against another while his nation crumbles. That just about sums up what happens in China during times of peace. They never understand dangers until it's too late.

Speaking of the Middle Ages, the Terracotta Warriors were found with crossbows...

samf - September 19, 2005 11:42 AM (GMT)

From what I've learned so far China seems to go through cycles of expansion and introspection. There seems to be more than enough going on to keep a historian busy, especially in the last few dynasties - for someone who used to study medieval and early modern Europe there's a relatively massive amount of evidence to examine. (Once I learn a bit of Chinese... :( ) And of course 20th century China had a shit of a lot going on too. Oh yeah.

Adolf Chiang - September 19, 2005 11:53 AM (GMT)
20th Century China was another period of tragedies. I think they're getting used to all the hardships.

samf - September 19, 2005 12:15 PM (GMT)

I gather the whole pattern of Chinese history has been one of hardships for the vast majority of people.

Adolf Chiang - September 19, 2005 12:41 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (samf @ Sep 20 2005, 12:15 AM)
I gather the whole pattern of Chinese history has been one of hardships for the vast majority of people.

In times of hardship the smart ones take advantage of those who are unaware, that's why there has been so many false prophets and their failed uprisings. Those who successed bask in power, wealth and glory.

Dr_Steve - September 19, 2005 12:44 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Happy Ahmed @ Sep 19 2005, 08:07 PM)
Free translation is particulatly shit at german sentence structure. The words are all there but they are very much not in order. Also the syntax is fucked.

aye reccommend an honourable suicide.

it took me ten minutes to find a combination of words which babelfish would translate back to English properly.

Maus - September 20, 2005 03:13 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Adolf Chiang @ Sep 19 2005, 11:05 PM)


So what careers do your history major holds? Any alternatives besides teaching and museum guide?

Academia, journalism, civil service (in ministries such as social development, MFAT etc. (if you have a graduate degree)), business (Bob Jones only hires Arts students), advertising, editing, politics, NGOs and heaps of others.

These careers (and others!) are all available to Arts students of all stripes. Helps to do a post-grad degree though.

Hauser - September 20, 2005 07:08 AM (GMT)
Remember my prediction in the Occidental, Sam? That China is going to burn out and get totally fucked over, just like Germany did, and just like any nation or person in real life that tries to move up too fast up the food chain for their own good.

Adolf Chiang - September 20, 2005 09:01 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Hauser @ Sep 20 2005, 07:08 PM)
Remember my prediction in the Occidental, Sam? That China is going to burn out and get totally fucked over, just like Germany did, and just like any nation or person in real life that tries to move up too fast up the food chain for their own good.

It has already burned out. If China seeks the path of aggression that country would not survive. The Chinese ain't going to tolerate it if some other country pushes them around.

samf - September 20, 2005 12:44 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Hauser @ Sep 20 2005, 07:08 PM)
Remember my prediction in the Occidental, Sam? That China is going to burn out and get totally fucked over, just like Germany did, and just like any nation or person in real life that tries to move up too fast up the food chain for their own good.


It'd take a lot for China to be more fucked over than it was in the early republican era, and they sure bounced back from that.

I think China's now on the verge of reestablishing its No. 1 status in Asia, but don't think they harbour any much wider global ambitions (or could realise them at present if they did). Government-wise, I give the CCP quite a few more years at the top if they continue to adapt their ideology to the needs and wants of the population.

Adolf Chiang - September 21, 2005 07:55 AM (GMT)
Samf, in an earlier thread you asked about where I came from, I'll give you one clue. My hometown also happens to be one of Auckland's sister cities.

samf - September 21, 2005 09:16 AM (GMT)

Hmm, the city of revolutions and Auckland's sister city... I'll chase it up when I have some time.

Adolf Chiang - September 21, 2005 09:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (samf @ Sep 21 2005, 09:16 PM)
Hmm, the city of revolutions and Auckland's sister city... I'll chase it up when I have some time.

The city is also known as a cullinary capital in China, with the common belief being "anything on four legs is edible except for furniture. Anything with two wings is edible, except for aircraft."

Boy Wonder - September 22, 2005 03:43 AM (GMT)
I heard that there is a huge fire burning in China that noone can put out, and the Chinese government won't let the outside world know about it. Its sposed to be as big as quarter the USA now or somthing.

I also heard Bird flu is killing heaps of Chinese and China are keeping it secret.

the oob - September 22, 2005 03:44 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Boy Wonder @ Sep 22 2005, 03:43 PM)
I heard that there is a huge fire burning in China that noone can put out, and the Chinese government won't let the outside world know about it. Its sposed to be as big as quarter the USA now or somthing.

If there were a fire that big it would have been picked up on satellite and we'd all know about it.

Adolf Chiang - September 22, 2005 06:54 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Boy Wonder @ Sep 22 2005, 03:43 PM)
I also heard Bird flu is killing heaps of Chinese and China are keeping it secret.

Which dissendent websites have you been looking up? The Chinese government is very cautious about bird flu and greater precautions are in existence than SARS. Anyone with suspicious symptoms will simply be too big to escape media attention as the level of caution is very high.

I doubt that a forest fire of that calibre would occur as China has been highly deforestated.




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