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Title: "looting" In New Orleans
Description: white people find, black people loot


BJC123 - September 13, 2005 02:16 AM (GMT)
Feel the need to talk about the pic that was in Craccum this week

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Everyone has been loving to point of the "blatent" racism of these captions, and how racism is always here, etc etc.

A few facts about looting. Breaking a window and stealing DVD players and stereos is looting. Finding some food in the street is not. What can we see from these photos? A black guy with a huge rubbish bag loaded with food (its floating afterall), and another with two white people with a loaf of break and a coke. Still, whats the diff between the "looting" and the "finding"?

The photos in question were taken by two different photographers, and when uploading/distributing photographers, the photographers generally supply a caption. The photographer of the two white people has said:

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"I wrote the caption about the two people who 'found' the items. I believed in my opinion, that they did simply find them, and not 'looted' them in the definition of the word. The people were swimming in chest deep water, and there were other people in the water, both white and black. I looked for the best picture. there were a million items floating in the water - we were right near a grocery store that had 5+ feet of water in it. it had no doors. the water was moving, and the stuff was floating away. These people were not ducking into a store and busting down windows to get electronics. They picked up bread and cokes that were floating in the water


One the other hand, the photographer of the black male who was supposedly "looting" has said he witnessed the people in his images looting a grocery store, and thats why he wrote looting in the caption.


A little more research and independent analysis would be nice in future articles...

vocaleyes - September 13, 2005 02:42 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (BJC123 @ Sep 13 2005, 02:16 PM)

A little more research and independent analysis would be nice in future articles...

You are asking for accuracy and balance?
Or perhaps you seek a high level of journalism...

You do realise this is Craccum dont you?

Steveo - September 13, 2005 02:50 AM (GMT)
wb vocal :D

vocaleyes - September 13, 2005 02:51 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Steveo @ Sep 13 2005, 02:50 PM)
wb vocal :D

shhhhh Im not here really... am just waiting for a reply to a PM ;)

Steveo - September 13, 2005 02:52 AM (GMT)
No comeback! We need more awesome people

vocaleyes - September 13, 2005 02:55 AM (GMT)
oh *HUG* you Sooooo made it onto my christmas beer list!

Fez - September 13, 2005 03:20 AM (GMT)
If you want more info on the REAL NO

go here

www.livejournal.com/~interdictor

Its the blog of the one guy that had internet in NO during and after the hurricane.

He describe everything you could possibly want to know about how shit went down.

Adolf Chiang - September 16, 2005 12:23 AM (GMT)
People are always ready for a bargain, it's how willing they are driven to get it that contributes to looting. I believe that shooting the looters is justified as a state of emergency has been declared and drastic measures must be taken to ensure civil order.

Mr Lanky Bobs - September 19, 2005 12:22 AM (GMT)
yeah but killing people when they try to eat? picture yourself in their shoes...remember you should never laugh at someone unitl you've walked a mile in their shoes...cos then your a mile away and have their shoes...

Adolf Chiang - September 19, 2005 01:00 AM (GMT)
It's not usually the items of necessity that they loot. 9/10 out off ten after a natural disaster in a Western country, looters go after the big items that they can't afford (in the Third World, they go after just about anything). With anarchy rampant during that time, the wide circulation of firearms make the area extremely volatile.

It was absolutely necessary to declare marshal law and clamp down on violent looters and overdue criminals, this is not just an American government thing as other countries would have done the same.

Fez - September 19, 2005 02:00 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Adolf Chiang @ Sep 19 2005, 01:00 PM)
this is not just an American government thing as other countries would have done the same.

aye beg to differ.

Where else but America would you be able to loot GUN shops?

Not here, aye dont think aye have ever seen a gun shop in NZ

Therefore you wouldnt really need military force and the killing that follows.

Steveo - September 19, 2005 02:41 AM (GMT)
aye work next to a gun shop........

the oob - September 19, 2005 02:43 AM (GMT)
A portion of any sufficiently large population in that kind of situation is going to start doing crazy shit. A brutal order is better than no order at all.

Adolf Chiang - September 19, 2005 05:35 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (the oob @ Sep 19 2005, 02:43 PM)
A portion of any sufficiently large population in that kind of situation is going to start doing crazy shit. A brutal order is better than no order at all.

Damn right, especially in tough times where there are people to to rescue and care for and the whole area is waist deep in sewage, the last thing you want is some bloody gunbattle happening around you.

partnotwhite - September 20, 2005 06:40 AM (GMT)
What is it called when hispanics are doing it? looting or finding food?

Fez - September 20, 2005 06:54 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (partnotwhite @ Sep 20 2005, 06:40 PM)
What is it called when hispanics are doing it? looting or finding food?

taco-bell employees on a lunch break

Adolf Chiang - September 20, 2005 09:07 AM (GMT)
Not only has the post-flooding area become a breeding ground for disease, it has also turned into a breeding ground for violence and anarchy.

partnotwhite - September 21, 2005 07:34 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Adolf Chiang @ Sep 20 2005, 09:07 PM)
Not only has the post-flooding area become a breeding ground for disease, it has also turned into a breeding ground for violence and anarchy.

did a little bit of violence and anarchy every hurt anyone?

Adolf Chiang - September 21, 2005 08:00 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (partnotwhite @ Sep 21 2005, 07:34 PM)
did a little bit of violence and anarchy every hurt anyone?

Oh yes, there has been deaths by shooting (although under reported due to the media focus on the disaster in a holistic manner). If you love anarchy so much, why not move to the Democractic Republic of Congo and develop a taste for human flesh?




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